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In case you missed it, we just released the fourth milestone of Ceylon and Ceylon IDE. The next release will be the feature-complete Ceylon 1.0 beta, now due in January. We've also pushed a major update to Ceylon Herd.

This is the second release of the Ceylon compiler and other command line tools.

Great, I'm finally able to write, compile, and run Ceylon code that uses Java libraries from within Ceylon IDE:

The first official public release of the Ceylon IDE is out! You can read David's announcement here.

The first release of the Ceylon command line tools is finally available!

Los de JavaMéxico me han invitado a presentar Ceylon en el DF, el 17 de diciembre. (Será la primera vez que intento hablar de technologia en español y estoy temblando.)

Haha! Try compiling this Java code:

This is a gorgeous, perfect example of precisely how not to engage in debate over technical issues. I won't respond point-by-point, because the post is mainly self-refuting, but it does amuse me to highlight the following:

A couple of days ago I spotted an interesting hole in Ceylon's type checker. I started out with something like this:

In connection with this discussion it's worth making explicit what I guess everybody knows, but that sometimes seems to get a bit mixed up in conversation: that Java's support for raw types (necessary for backward compatibility with pre-generics code) doesn't really have anything much to do with type argument erasure. In a hypothetical language: